Saeco S-PR-SG Primea Ring Super-Automatic Espresso Machine

$1097 + free SuperSaver shipping from Amazon.com

Looks like clearance sale.

Next lowest price I could find was $1717 from a relatively unknown buynow.com

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Holy smokies!!

Thats a good deal!

Too bad I have hypertension now, otherwise I would jump on this.

i know its a good deal compared to the other prices but how much do you have to like espresso to pay 1000 dollars to be able to make it... and what does it do that cheaper ones don't... I guess I just don't get it. But good deal price comparison wise.

great post/find op!

TwitchSD said:i know its a good deal compared to the other prices but how much do you have to like espresso to pay 1000 dollars to be able to make it... and what does it do that cheaper ones don't... I guess I just don't get it. But good deal price comparison wise.

know people who pay more - and pay $50 per # of coffee - and know that they don't like espresso that much - in any case - this is a good deal on a good automatic espresso maker!!! Good luck!

Automatics don't shine for making high-end espresso...inability to manage parameters (barista skill) limits the output to potentially above-average at best, assuming fresh, degassed and rested beans. Automatics shine with their limited learning curve, consistency (when kept clean and maintained), and excel in making espresso drinks easily/efficiently (since you're essentially covering up the espresso in milk and sugar). In an office environment, they're almost perfect (still the learning curve, and many won't have that patience), but for a home espresso enthusiast, save the dough and look for a great semi-auto, and hone your barista skills.

rigor said:coffee taste like poo even if you have a nespresso.

speaking of which i kinda dig my essanza and lattisima (sp?). at 630am when the kids crying hit one button and done.

not sure how these work but not having to clean up much is convenient.

if you drink coffee you should consider trading up to espresso of some sort. you end up using alot less junk (sugar,cremer) that tears up your stomach.

the gist of most espresso machines is by using 15+ bar pressure and lower brew temperature(150-160F) you extra less toxins than a typical coffee maker (195F).

hmm... coming from a seasoned barista, the tried and true method for almost all commercial machines, and you can quote me:

for a double shot (espresso doppio), if the shots are timed out properly:

20-22g of espresso
tamped at 30-40lbs
pulled at 198 deg F
using 9 bars of pressure
for 25 seconds

should yield roughly 7/8-1 1/8 oz of espresso, not counting the crema.

You may be right about less toxins, but I don't know about brewing espresso at lower temperatures.
About the 15 bar claim, this is probably the maximum pressure supported by the block, but I doubt that it's sustainable while dispensing. Ask most coffee shops, they have their machines dialed in at 9 bars during extraction but that number rises to 12-15 bars when the machine isn't pulling a shot.

dang rameneater i'll take two of those please

If you want to make good cheap espresso I recommend a semi-auto machine and a good grinder. They will make a better espresso than you will ever get out of a fully automatic machine. Here are a couple of suggestions:

Espresso Machine
Grinder

The information you are providing is not at all accurate

rigor said:

the gist of most espresso machines is by using 15+ bar pressure and lower brew temperature(150-160F) you extra less toxins than a typical coffee maker (195F).